Grive à joues grises?

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amylws
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Grive à joues grises?

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Bonjour à tous,

I just had a lovely encounter with this thrush, and am fairly certain it is a Gray-cheeked? Uniformly grey-brown body (no contrast on the tail), and no obvious buffy spectacles like a Swainson's?
It would be my first of this species, and I want to make sure I'm not getting carried away!

Merci beaucoup,
Amy
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ginoay
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Re: Grive à joues grises?

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That would certainly be what I would say, a grey-cheecked trush.

amylws
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Merci! Hooray.
Now if only it strays 10 ft further north so I can add it to my garden list!
Many thanks.

ginoay
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Well, I am by no means an authority on bird identification :-) !!!! I am curious to see what others have to say. I am second-guessing myself now!!!!

One thing that 'bothers' me a bit with the photos is is find the bird to be quite a bit on the 'reddish' side. So could we absolutely rule out a veery? What you saw in person might be a bit different from the photo. Was the bird really more brown/grey rather than 'reddish' / cinnamon-brown ? Also from what I see I am not 100% convinced that the patterns (spots) on the throat and breast are completely incompatible with a veery. I have seen photos of veery with slightly a stronger spots on the chest and breast i.e similar to what we can see on the photos.
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amylws
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Yes, the lighting was tricky and my photography skills definitely didn't help! Definitely too grey for a Veery, it was a definite choice between Swainson's and Grey-cheeked for me.

Took two hours, but just seen it again from home.....maybe I should buy a lottery ticket too!

ginoay
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So we can eliminate the following thrushes for sure: hermit and Swainson and wood thrushes. The eye-ring on a Swainson would be apparent - there is none here.

So we're left with Veery, Grey-cheeked or very very rare a Bicknell's. The later two would be very difficult to separate and in any case, that would be a great find! The rendering of colors on photos can be tricky... If you're confident that it is more grey than 'reddish' then I would say, you should be happy!

amylws
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That's pretty much the logic I followed too, though viewing it in person I discounted Veery, Hermit and Wood all based on colour. I just double checked with my non-birder partner who was with me and he described it as grey too. He's pretty familiar with both hermit and veery as the more common options here.
I assume separating Bicknell's would need a call or song? Very unlikely as you say.

I'm pretty happy, and grateful for the discussion too.

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